tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post8150134224310323413..comments2023-07-11T08:11:25.508-07:00Comments on Coursera Fantasy: The Evils of PlagtrackerLaura Gibbshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-1021539954711320542014-06-28T08:25:57.375-07:002014-06-28T08:25:57.375-07:00DO NOT SUBSCRIBE! Not good! Does not work! Will...DO NOT SUBSCRIBE! Not good! Does not work! Will not let you cancel!Honest personhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16559917047693504516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-65144161545477386682013-06-02T15:43:30.270-07:002013-06-02T15:43:30.270-07:00Basically, both plagtracker and plagspotter are bo...Basically, both plagtracker and plagspotter are bogus tools developed by a company who has been providing cheating services like "custom written" essays and term papers for students who wanted to cheat their way through their university... Do you see the irony here? hence the result - all they need to "check" is that their "custom made" essay has not been sold to anyone before!Marthanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-58305021599921230252012-09-19T00:08:30.949-07:002012-09-19T00:08:30.949-07:00what i don't get is how the plagtracker report...what i don't get is how the plagtracker report finds, say, 7% of non-unique content in my writing and then "...found in 0 sources..." how can there be a percentage of non-unique content but no source?cars10https://www.blogger.com/profile/13847166845716109791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-91473055068093983222012-09-11T16:44:03.666-07:002012-09-11T16:44:03.666-07:00I just submitted my 500 word essay for the Interne...I just submitted my 500 word essay for the Internet History course and out of curiosity (and because the lecturer suggested it just to cover one's ***) I fed it to the Plagtracker.<br /><br />After the 20 minute inspection (it seems to always take 20 minutes irrespective of the text's length - unless I upgrade to the premium version :-) I got the (expected) statement "Your paper contains 0% of non-unique content". I'm really looking forward if my graders are more successful in finding plagiarism...<br /><br />My secret is that I am too lazy to find any sources to cut-and-paste from - I just write it all off my head. This is possible after having collected years of experience about the subject area (software and engineering in my case). Being lazy also means that my text didn't contain a single quotation which could have been mistaken as plagiarism.<br /><br />Now my essay might be good or it might be bad but I'm sure it would fail the test of my local university due to containing arguments not backed by any reputable references. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-71842168747792505742012-08-21T07:05:03.473-07:002012-08-21T07:05:03.473-07:00Emilia, I did not say that Plagtracker was inconve...Emilia, I did not say that Plagtracker was inconvenient; making sure that it is convenient to work with does not seem to me really important one way or the other. Your software is completely incapable of identifying actual plagiarism; only a human being can do that responsibly and accurately. So, why do you call your software Plagtracker? In the very name of your service, you give a false expectation about what the software can do. It is NOT capable of "tracking plagiarism" - so why do you give it that name?Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-56887225075175171482012-08-21T06:48:26.720-07:002012-08-21T06:48:26.720-07:00I am representative of plagiarism checker Plagtrac...I am representative of plagiarism checker Plagtracker. We have created Plagtracker half a year ago and we are still developing our service and making sure that Plagtracker is convenient to work with. <br />We know that quotes indicate on duplicate content, but it does't accuse of plagiarism!<br />Please, look attentively at Plagtracker report, you'll see "Please make sure that highlighted text is properly referenced."<br />Also, we are planning to create additional feature that identifies quotes.Emiliahttp://www.plagtracker.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-16935641717660768322012-08-19T07:53:31.357-07:002012-08-19T07:53:31.357-07:00Marcin, I read something about the Turnitin robots...Marcin, I read something about the Turnitin robots just the other day - apparently they are really insidious and make it very hard to block - exactly because people are not so keen on giving stuff to Turnitin for their evil profits. They also make good use of Google as well, of course - and since I really do want Google to index my stuff, there's really no way to protect myself from Turnitin. I just focus on trying to remind people at my school how WRONG it is for us to be giving all our students' writing to Turnitin... and paying for the privilege! Argh!Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-86125827247306524252012-08-18T08:48:05.782-07:002012-08-18T08:48:05.782-07:00Turnitin keeps a record of everything submitted, r...Turnitin keeps a record of everything submitted, right? That's a bit dangerous for something like Coursera where one might submit little pieces of something else they've written (which, granted, is self-plagiarism...but is it WRONG in this situation?). Such a mess!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01974988315420539840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-73700246952384636732012-08-18T08:46:16.506-07:002012-08-18T08:46:16.506-07:00Just another think. Turnitin webcrawler is going a...Just another think. Turnitin webcrawler is going around on my website... let's block it. They can't use our content to check for plagiarism. Marcin Kłeczekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05329085305596813277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-27247950332854125172012-08-18T08:45:06.094-07:002012-08-18T08:45:06.094-07:00Ah, I hope not. But if they do I, too, will no lon...Ah, I hope not. But if they do I, too, will no longer submit work. I think Turnitin may have been exactly the one that Dr. Chralesworth was trying to force upon us. Software like this ONLY works if people are then willing to double check all the alleged plagiarisms themselves. Because computers simply aren't smart enough (yet?) to distinguish between real plagiarism and "appearances" of plagiarism. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01974988315420539840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-58030339097910223542012-08-18T08:44:11.350-07:002012-08-18T08:44:11.350-07:00Jest jeszcze jedna rzecz, której nie sprawdzałem, ...Jest jeszcze jedna rzecz, której nie sprawdzałem, a którą doskonale pamiętam. Swego czasu podobne narzędzie zostało wprowadzone na polskich uczelniach. Ponieważ "Polak potrafi", bardzo szybko znaleziono rozwiązanie - wybrane znaki, zastępowano identycznie wyglądającymi znakami o innym znaczeniu - w wersji drukowanej (dostarczanej do sekretariatu) wyglądało to identycznie, natomiast dla komputera, to były zupełnie inne wyrazy/zdania/akatpity. Np. o (mała literka o) była zastępowana cyfrą "0" (zero) z czcionki, która nie przekreśla zera. Zamiast "Ł" robiono "l" i nakładano na to przekreślenie (/ w odpowiedniej wielkości i położeniu). Jestem przekonany, że i tutaj pewnie obejścia można by zrobić.Marcin Kłeczekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05329085305596813277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-80259965992555418732012-08-18T08:04:21.376-07:002012-08-18T08:04:21.376-07:00Eegad, Rachel, but I can believe it... my school p...Eegad, Rachel, but I can believe it... my school promotes the use of Turnitin very heavily, and I worry that they may ultimately require me to use it - which I won't do, of course. So I sure hope it does not come to be a requirement at my school! I would be very disappointed if it were installed in Coursera; I would not agree to submit my writing to Turnitin and would simply have to opt out of the writing portion of the class if Coursera goes that route. I am worried that they might do just that...Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-48834381495406094472012-08-18T05:36:43.195-07:002012-08-18T05:36:43.195-07:00When I was writing my dissertation, the person at ...When I was writing my dissertation, the person at the university who was in charge of reviewing our dissertations and giving the final "go ahead" for graduation was a huge fan of plagiarism software similar to this. She was hoping to fail all students who got over a certain percentage plagiarized. Of course all the faculty put up a big stink and she was eventually nay-said. But just think of the horrors that would have resulted if she'd gotten her way!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01974988315420539840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-46737982027343872712012-08-17T17:22:01.068-07:002012-08-17T17:22:01.068-07:00Jak straszne! To znaczy więc, że to jest przklęstw...Jak straszne! To znaczy więc, że to jest przklęstwo światowe! Właśnie dzisiaj rano ktoś mi powiedział ze obsługa Turnitin się znajduje coraz więcej na uniwersytetach Wielkiej Brytanii. Dużo czasu nie straciłam na tak zwnaych źródłach - zobaczyłam tytuł powieści Frankenstein raz i drugi raz i trzeci raz... już dosyć! Przykro mi, że to głupstwo może oszukać studentów i uczniów we wszystkich krajach świata....Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1619974859742853534.post-44616714210212135752012-08-17T14:06:23.973-07:002012-08-17T14:06:23.973-07:00Równie ciekawie wyglądało sprawdzenie mojego eseju...Równie ciekawie wyglądało sprawdzenie mojego eseju (w języku polskim): Your paper contains 75% of non-unique content that appears in 27 Sources!<br />Własnoręcznie napisany tekst, który nie był nawet inspirowany żadnym istniejącym tekstem (na tyle, żeby można było zasugerować "odpisanie")!<br />Co więcej - teksty, które rzekomo występowały na sugerowanych stronach, nie występowały tam w całości, a jedynie w części - a zazwyczaj były to często używane zwroty:<br />" Cena, jaką musi zapłacić", " Z drugiej strony jest przerażające", "na stałe wniknęła w świadomość przeciętnego". <br />Na szczęście drugi - ciekawszy - esej nt Alicji, był oceniony "tylko" na 15% (choć w 100% własnoręczny).Marcin Kłeczekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05329085305596813277noreply@blogger.com